Comments on: The Cross & Children’s Ministry http://bethefruit.com/2009/08/21/the-cross-childrens-ministry/ Helping the people of God learn to bear fruit wherever they are. Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:09:25 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: How do people become de-churched? | Be The Fruit http://bethefruit.com/2009/08/21/the-cross-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-975 How do people become de-churched? | Be The Fruit Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:57:15 +0000 http://bethefruit.com/?p=254#comment-975 [...] I came across the  video below earlier that features Matt Chandler at a recent conference where he spoke about preaching the gospel to the de-churched.  In this clip, he speaks about how he thinks people become “de-churched.”  His explanation about churches assuming the gospel and teaching a moral diesim is right on target and dovetails nicely with my post from last week, “The Cross & Children’s Ministry” that can be read here. [...] [...] I came across the  video below earlier that features Matt Chandler at a recent conference where he spoke about preaching the gospel to the de-churched.  In this clip, he speaks about how he thinks people become “de-churched.”  His explanation about churches assuming the gospel and teaching a moral diesim is right on target and dovetails nicely with my post from last week, “The Cross & Children’s Ministry” that can be read here. [...]

]]> By: Bill Blair http://bethefruit.com/2009/08/21/the-cross-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-970 Bill Blair Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:53:43 +0000 http://bethefruit.com/?p=254#comment-970 Mitch, the problem certainly carries over into adulthood. I think the lack of gospel to be a be contributor to the massive church dropout rates we are seeing. If kids are not connected to Christ through the gospel they will not be transformed on the inside, and this makes them leave the church when they leave the nest. They leave because they were never really connected to the vine. Also, keep in mind that the legalism you speak of does not always look mean, ugly, or authoritative. Sometimes it is cool, hip, and fun but it always leaves out Christ and our need for him. Mitch, the problem certainly carries over into adulthood. I think the lack of gospel to be a be contributor to the massive church dropout rates we are seeing. If kids are not connected to Christ through the gospel they will not be transformed on the inside, and this makes them leave the church when they leave the nest. They leave because they were never really connected to the vine.

Also, keep in mind that the legalism you speak of does not always look mean, ugly, or authoritative. Sometimes it is cool, hip, and fun but it always leaves out Christ and our need for him.

]]> By: MitchTheFielder http://bethefruit.com/2009/08/21/the-cross-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-969 MitchTheFielder Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:20:11 +0000 http://bethefruit.com/?p=254#comment-969 "White-washing" kids also leads to problems as they become adults. They are fed obedience and a list of rules and it creates legalism. There are so many people in the church that are adults that completely skip over the message of grace and go straight back to the law. “White-washing” kids also leads to problems as they become adults. They are fed obedience and a list of rules and it creates legalism. There are so many people in the church that are adults that completely skip over the message of grace and go straight back to the law.

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